accordingly to this verse (2 Cor 5:19-21), God through Christ has removed His wrath on the Whole world of the living. We are no longer His enemy. Yet, the other side of His reconciliation is our reconciliation of ourselves toward GOD. Do we not have to do this, Robert....If this is right, then so many will not Reconcile themselves to GOD thus the reconciliation of His wrath (burying the hatchet) so to speak. is meaningless for that person.It appears that you don't know what the Gospel is. This may be why you are a Calvinist.
The Gospel is the work that Jesus did in our name and on our behalf that justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.
This is a past historical event, never to be repeated. "God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself" 2 Corinthians 5:19. God sees ALL THINGS in his Son Jesus Christ, Colossians 1:20. As far as God is concerned Jesus has ALREADY victoriously defeated sin, death and the devil and now sits in heaven as the "The King of Kings and the Lord of Lords" Revelation 19:16. This is why Paul wrote, "You are complete in him" Colossians 2:10. No predestination needed.
Not really, there are several in this forum alone but I will let it go...That's simply false, Blade.
Everyone must reconcile themselves to Christ or His reconciliation for them is all for naught.That's simply false, Blade.
So now you agree with this?
1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
Jesus Christ DID die for everyone. Anyone who wants to can believe the Gospel and become saved.
So now you agree with this?
1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
Jesus Christ DID die for everyone. Anyone who wants to can believe the Gospel and become saved.
God has reconciled the whole world unto himself by Jesus Christ. This is a one sided reconciliation and is not dependent upon whether or not you accept it or believe it. As far as God is concerned Jesus has victoriously defeated sin, death and the devil and not sits in heaven as... "The King of Kings and the Lord of Lords" Revelation 19:16. Salvation has been provided for everyone, Hebrews 2:9. However, nothing is ours until it is received by faith.accordingly to this verse (2 Cor 5:19-21), God through Christ has removed His wrath on the Whole world of the living. We are no longer His enemy. Yet, the other side of His reconciliation is our reconciliation of ourselves toward GOD. Do we not have to do this, Robert....If this is right, then so many will not Reconcile themselves to GOD thus the reconciliation of His wrath (burying the hatchet) so to speak. is meaningless for that person.
Blade
thus everything the bible states, God's WORD says is wrong or all a lie.God has reconciled the whole world unto himself by Jesus Christ. This is a one sided reconciliation and is not dependent upon whether or not you accept it or believe it. As far as God is concerned Jesus has victoriously defeated sin, death and the devil and not sits in heaven as... "The King of Kings and the Lord of Lords" Revelation 19:16. Salvation has been provided for everyone, Hebrews 2:9. However, nothing is ours until it is received by faith.
You are under the misconception that the Bible supports Calvinism. There is no scripture that says God predestinates people to heaven or to hell. You have been deceived by the devil.thus everything the bible states, God's WORD says is wrong or all a lie.
Blade
what about Rom 8:30You are under the misconception that the Bible supports Calvinism. There is no scripture that says God predestinates people to heaven or to hell. You have been deceived by the devil.
Who did God predestinate to be saved? Does the scripture not say that Jesus is the savior of the whole world? 1 John 2:2. Does the scripture not say that Jesus has provided salvation for EVERYONE? Hebrews 2:9. All of humanity was predestinated to be saved by Jesus Christ, because salvation has been provided for EVERYONE.what about Rom 8:30
Blade
Thus the Bible states that He predestined whom He knew. How many He saved, we do not know but we do know that all the earth as you believe is not going to happen. There are a wide road full of people that just will not get to heaven,...Who did God predestinate to be saved? Does the scripture not say that Jesus is the savior of the whole world? 1 John 2:2. Does the scripture not say that Jesus has provided salvation for EVERYONE? Hebrews 2:9. All of humanity was predestinated to be saved by Jesus Christ, because salvation has been provided for EVERYONE.
Who are the called? The Holy Spirit is in the world calling EVERYONE to come to Christ to be saved. Some hear and respond some hear and don't respond. God is no respecter of anyone's person. All that God does he does corporately.
No. You’re doing it again. Robert does not believe everyone is going to be saved.Thus the Bible states that He predestined whom He knew. How many He saved, we do not know but we do know that all the earth as you believe is not going to happen. There are a wide road full of people that just will not get to heaven,...
Yet you believe that all the earth is going to heaven...Thus the Bible is contradictory according to your word and needs to be thrown away...
Right?
Who did God predestinate to be saved? Does the scripture not say that Jesus is the savior of the whole world? 1 John 2:2. Does the scripture not say that Jesus has provided salvation for EVERYONE? Hebrews 2:9. All of humanity was predestinated to be saved by Jesus Christ, because salvation has been provided for EVERYONE.
Who are the called? The Holy Spirit is in the world calling EVERYONE to come to Christ to be saved. Some hear and respond some hear and don't respond. God is no respecter of anyone's person. All that God does he does corporately.
There are no contradictions in the Bible concerning salvation. If predestination was true the Bible would be full of it, there is nothing. The word predestination only appears in the Bible 4 times. Not once does it say that God predestinates people to heaven or to hell. You are assuming that the scripture says that.Thus the Bible states that He predestined whom He knew. How many He saved, we do not know but we do know that all the earth as you believe is not going to happen. There are a wide road full of people that just will not get to heaven,...
Yet you believe that all the earth is going to heaven...Thus the Bible is contradictory according to your word and needs to be thrown away...
Right?
Blade
these are His words.."Does the scripture not say that Jesus has provided salvation for EVERYONE? Hebrews 2:9. All of humanity was predestinated to be saved by Jesus Christ, because salvation has been provided for EVERYONE."No. You’re doing it again. Robert does not believe everyone is going to be saved.
According to the Bible this is also wrong....but then what is else not new!Christ died for everyone, but that does not mean everyone will be saved. People have to choose to believe the Gospel, and unfortunately many don’t.
According to the Bible it’s true. Christ died for everyone. Salvation is available to anyone.According to the Bible this is also wrong....but then what is else not new!
Blade