Don't ask me to answer questions as though you really wanted to know if all you are going to do when I do answer, is insult me.so strange logic.
That's Calvinism logic.
You are so devoted and blind to deceptive teaching..
so sad.
this is my observation of your overall faith.
Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.Yes you do. Every time scripture tell us what is contained in saving faith---repentance, accepting, receiving, believing, you add the word "choose" or some form of it.
There have been bits and pieces discussed.Why don't you tell me about His character, and support your claim. That would be a discussion.
Previously discussed. Most of those OT quotes are concerning fools and the wicked.Then everything that the Bible tells us about the nature and character of mankind is a lie. "All our righteousness is as filthy rags." "All have fallen short of the glory of God." "No one seeks God, no not one." "We are dead in tresspasses and sins." for starters.
I do not treat the theology as worshiping three Gods.Try and understand what I am saying.
Of course you do not say we worship three Gods, because you know we say we don't. That does not change the fact that you can only argue against this theology by treating it as though we do.
God is autonomous. He cannot create another autonomous being as that would be a contradiction, and there would be no basis for anyone to submit to Him or even a basis for God requiring that anyone submit to Him. Submission removes autonomy. To say autonomy is a part of His image in which we are created is to not understand that bearing His image does not make us exactly like Him at any point. He is transcendent. To bear His image is to imitate His character. He cannot create something that is equal to Himself for He is not a creation.Man IS autonomous. It's part of the image of God that we are created in. While we do have a sin nature, we know both good and evil, and can choose between the two.
We are to imitate God's character (Eph 5:1). Autonomy means free to choose. We can say "yes" or "no" to God.God is autonomous. He cannot create another autonomous being as that would be a contradiction, and there would be no basis for anyone to submit to Him or even a basis for God requiring that anyone submit to Him. Submission removes autonomy. To say autonomy is a part of His image in which we are created is to not understand that bearing His image does not make us exactly like Him at any point. He is transcendent. To bear His image is to imitate His character. He cannot create something that is equal to Himself for He is not a creation.
Nor is it saying that we cannot choose to believe the gospel.And saying that our will is not free does not mean that we do not know good from evil, and it is not saying that we never choose good over evil.
There are too many posters including you that how I observe is accurate or not because it is never clear.Don't ask me to answer questions as though you really wanted to know if all you are going to do when I do answer, is insult me.
You have no observation of my faith. All you have is judgement that I don't believe as you do.
If you paid attention to what we say, it might be more clear.There are too many posters including you that how I observe is accurate or not because it is never clear.
Or you will come back with that's not what you believe.
That is not what autonomy means.We are to imitate God's character (Eph 5:1). Autonomy means free to choose. We can say "yes" or "no" to God.
We can choose it but we won't, because we don't want to. We cannot stomach God's autonomy and want our own. We delude ourselves into thinking that we can ignore Him without consequences, and to do so, create an image of Him that allows us to do this. Or simply deny His existence. Open theism is a clear cut case of doing the former. This God, the one it defines in it's own self preserving way, they can seek and choose. But it is not God as He is. We are all in the same boat. "None seek after God, no not one." All are dead in their trespasses and sins.Nor is it saying that we cannot choose to believe the gospel.
Like God gives us free will but not really???????If you paid attention to what we say, it might be more clear.
I never said God gave us free will.Like God gives us free will but not really???????
I don't believe this kind of approach is clear at all.
here you go again,I never said God gave us free will.
Arial is a dedicated Calvinist. People have no free will to choose to believe. God does it all.here you go again,
I know but she seems to deny it.Arial is a dedicated Calvinist. People have no free will to choose to believe. God does it all.