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THE 1000 YEAR MILLENNIUM - MILLENNIAL REIGN

THE 1000 YEAR MILLENNIUM - THE MILLENNIAL REIGN OF CHRIST - ON EARTH OR IN HEAVEN?

There is great confusion among the churches of the world today concerning the 1000 year millennium - a time in which the saints of God reign with Christ. The main confusion is regarding the PLACE in which this 1000 years is going to occur. Many believe the 1000 years is going to take place on earth. One of the main popular mainstream teachings says that Christ and the church are going to bring in a 1000 years of peace and prosperity, with the church reigned over the world with Christ. And who do you think wants the world to believe that a time of 'peace and safety' is coming upon the earth, with the "CHURCH" REIGNING over the world? The Roman Catholic Church and her apostate daughter churches. But what does the Bible say?

1 Thessalonians 5:3

Sudden destruction - yes, and make note of those words, sudden destruction is coming to all those who are deceived by the 'peace' plaplans of the Roman Catholic Church and her apostate daughter churches. But let us ask the question quickly - IF the thousand years reigned with Christ was on earth, then what kind of world would we be reigning over? And what people would we be reigning over? The Bible gives us a very clear picture of what is going to happen to this world and to the wicked when Jesus returns:

Luke 17:26-30; Revelation 19:11-21; Jeremiah 4:23-26.

What does the 'presence of the LORD' bring to wicked unrepentant man and this sin laden earth? DESTRUCTION. Our God is an 'all consuming fire' (Hebrews 12:29). And when Jesus returns, as you can see above, all the wicked are going to be destroyed and this world is going to be 'laid waste.' So I ask you, what is there to 'reign over' if the 1000 years are spent on earth? Nothing!

The wheat and tares parable taught by Christ gives us a vital truth to understand regarding this. Not only does the wheat and tares parable PROVE the popular 'rapture' teaching to be false. It also shows this 1000 year millennium reign on earth teaching to be false. Jesus taught us through this parable in Matthew 13 that God's people (the wheat) and the wicked (the tares) grow together until the harvest. The harvest is the second coming of Christ for His church, according to Matthew 13 and is the 'end of the world.'

So if the harvest of the church is the 'end of the world', with the wicked destroyed and earth 'laid waste', then what is there to reign over? NOTHING! Do you see the problem with this teaching of a 1000 years on earth? It is NOT Biblical.

So let us take a look at what REALLY happens during the 1000 year millennium. Let us go through the verses in Revelation 20 and compare them with other scripture to gain a true Biblical understanding of what is going to take place.

Revelation 20:1-3

So Satan is going to be bound for the 1000 years. But what is 'binding' in the 'bottomless pit'? Satan isn't going to be literally bound in a pit, wrapped in chains where he can't move. There are many prophetic symbols in Revelation Bible prophecy, and the bottomless pit is one of those prophetic symbols. Let's take a look at the bottomless pit.

Revelation 11:7

Is this a literal beast that rises out of a pit to kill God's people? No! A beast in prophecy is a symbol of a nation/kingdom of this world, which we know from Daniel 7:23.

Daniel 7:23

Revelation 13 also talks of a beast that 'rises out of the sea.' This is a reference to a 'kingdom' rising up where? ON EARTH. So the bottomless pit is a prophetic symbol of the earth. So when it says that Satan is 'cast into the bottomless pit' and 'bound in a pit' it basically means he is bound to the earth with no one to tempt or deceive. But why? Why has he got no one to tempt? Let us take a look further into Revelation 20.

Revelation 20:4-5

We see TWO groups of people here. One group LIVE and reign with Christ for the 1000 years. The other group is DEAD for the 1000 years. And we are told that this is the 'first resurrection.' So let us take a look at some other Bible verses to find out what happens at the 'first resurrection'.

Revelation 20:6; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; Matthew 24:30-31; Luke 17:26-30

Do you see what happens at the first resurrection, which is the return of Christ? This STARTS the 1000 year millennium period, and those TWO groups of people are the lost who are KILLED when Jesus returns and the saints who 'meet the Lord in the air' to go to HEAVEN with Him.

So Satan is 'bound' ON EARTH and has no one to tempt, because there is NO MAN on earth during the 1000 years. The lost are dead and the saints are taken to heaven with Jesus. Satan is the one on earth during this time, NOT the saints or Christ. We do not come back to earth until AFTER the 1000 years when the lost are resurrected to receive their final judgment in the lake of fire and the earth is renewed by that fire.

Now did you notice in Revelation 20:4 that judgment is given to the saints and they sit on thrones during the 1000 years? Please mark this point well. Where are these thrones that the saints sit on to judge? In Daniel 7:9 we are told that 'thrones are set up and the Ancient of Days did sit.' Who is the Ancient of Days? It is God the Father. And where does He preside on His throne? IN HEAVEN (Psalm 11:4). This is a judgment scene in HEAVEN. So where are the saints going to go to after they 'meet the the Lord in the air' to judge? TO HEAVEN. This where the judgment of the lost will take place and as the apostle Paul said:

1 Corinthians 6:3

So we will take part in the judgment of the lost and wicked angels, with God the Father presiding over the judgment. And this clearly takes place in heaven, NOT on earth.

Please understand that point. The apostle Paul said that when Christ returns, we 'meet Him in the air'. This is because Christ does NOT set foot on earth when He returns. Instead, we meet Him in the air and go to HEAVEN with Him for the 1000 years.

Revelation 20:7-8

What Revelation 20:5 say about the lost? That they did not live again UNTIL the 1000 years had expired. And what does verse 7 above say? That when the 1000 years are expired, Satan is loosed out of his prison. So basic logic tells us that Satan being loosed out of his prison coincides with the lost being resurrected. This is how Satan is loosed from his prison when the 1000 years are ended. The wicked are resurrected and Satan can now gather them under his leadership again.

Revelation 20:9,14

After the 1000 years, we return with Christ and the holy city - new Jerusalem - descends to earth (Revelation 21:2). Satan deceives the resurrected wicked to attack and take the city. They surround the new Jerusalem to capture it, but then God Intervenes and fire comes down God, which devours the lost. Earth is renewed by those fires and the saints inhabit the new earth forever in peace, joy and righteousness.

WHAT WILL THE EARTH BE LLIKE DURING THE 1000 YEARS?

As I have said, one of the mainstream teachings concerning the millennium contends that during the 1000 year, Jesus will rule the earth - ON EARTH - with the saints, and there will be peace amongst the nations as Jesus rules from Jerusalem. But there is a BIG problem with this teaching. Take a look at the following verses describing what the earth will be like after the second coming of Christ:

Does the following sounds like the earth will continue as it is for another 1000 years after Jesus returns?

Isaiah 24:1; Jeremiah 4:23-26; Jeremiah 25:33; 2 Thessalonians 2:8; 2 Peter 3:10

Does it sound like this world as we know it will continue on for another 1000 years with the saints reigning with Christ from Israel? No! The wicked are destroyed at Jesus' second coming and the earth is laid waste. The saints go to heaven with Jesus 'meeting Him in the air', and as we can clearly see above, the earth will lay desolate for the 1000 years. This is what the earth will be like during the thousand year millennium. It won't be a happy, peaceful place where Jesus reigns the nations, it will be desolate, laid waste and empty! And to Satan it will be a "bottomless pit" to which he is bound to for the thousand years.

Then the earth will get its 1000 year 'Sabbath rest.' Just as God gave us 1 day a week for a Sabbath rest, and as the Bible says, 'a day is as a thousand years' to God (Peter 3:8), so will the earth get its Sabbath rest during the 1000 years millennium.

Let's face it, why would we reign over a desolate earth? We will be reigning with Christ IN HEAVEN, in glory! Praise God! Do not be deceived by this movement of the fallen churches to bring about a reign of people on earth, and accept Satan as Christ. The churches are following themselves to be ruled by antichrist rather than the REAL Jesus Christ, the Son of the living God. Please do not be deceived. Please seek the truth!

The churches are so focused on literal Jerusalem on earth, when it is new Jerusalem IN HEAVEN we should be focused on ... "But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all." Galatians 4:26)

John 14:1-3

Bless!

I know when it won't be happening... October 22 1844. :cool:
 
I know when it won't be happening... October 22 1844. :cool:
I think maybe 2030. If Jesus was born in 3 B.C. like some believe, and He died at the age of 33, then 2030 will be exactly 2,000 years since His death, burial, resurrection and ascension.
 
I know when it won't be happening... October 22 1844. :cool:

Seventh-day Adventists claim to occupy a unique position in the world. It is their conviction that they alone of the multitude of religious movements in existence have the "present truth" message of God. Such a belief rests almost entirely upon the interpretation that the 2300 day prophecy of Daniel 8:14 finds its terminus in 1844.

Oops.
 
What?

No, pip. I do not believe several of the things the SDA church does.
You are still don't understand that we FEW in the SDA Church are following the Bible, Biblical and without any other writings that isn't in harmony with the Bible.

I am not saying to you to believe in our teaching. I told you that our teaching is completely Biblical.

If it isn't so, then show me what that I have write is not in the Bible like, trinity god, triune god three in one god. And the popular secret rapture theory!!
 
Greetings Pipiripi,
There is great confusion among the churches of the world today concerning the 1000 year millennium - a time in which the saints of God reign with Christ. The main confusion is regarding the PLACE in which this 1000 years is going to occur. Many believe the 1000 years is going to take place on earth.
Revelation 5:9–10 (KJV): 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
There are a number of questions that this Scripture raises.
1. When does this refer to? My answer: At the beginning of the Kingdom, at the return of Jesus from heaven.
2. What does the position of "kings and priests" represent. My answer: The faithful will be given this position as they will rule (as kings or rulers) )over the mortal nations during the Kingdom and instruct these individuals in the ways of God Isaiah 2:1-4.
3. Where will the faithful reign during the Kingdom? My answer: On earth as clearly stated in Revelation 5:10. This is a direct answer as to the PLACE mentioned by Pipripi.

There is another mention of the faithful becoming kings and priests:
Revelation 20:4–6 (KJV): 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
This passage is in parallel with Revelation 5:9-10 and it also gives additional information. Revelation 5:10 teaches that the faithful will reign on the earth, and Revelation 20:4 indicates the duration of this reign upon the earth will be 1000 years. Revelation 20:6 also repeats that that the faithful will be both kings and priests, and again states that this will be for 1000 years.

The question arises as over whom will the faithful be kings, and who will they instruct as priests during the 1000 years? The SDAs do not accept that the faithful will be upon the earth during the 1000 years, nor that the faithful will be kings and priests as they teach that all others except the Sabbath Keeping SDAs will be destroyed.

Kind regards
Trevor
 
Greetings Mr E,
Seventh-day Adventists claim to occupy a unique position in the world. It is their conviction that they alone of the multitude of religious movements in existence have the "present truth" message of God. Such a belief rests almost entirely upon the interpretation that the 2300 day prophecy of Daniel 8:14 finds its terminus in 1844.
I believe a major fulfillment of the 2300 days is starting from BC 334-333 the overthrow of the Persian Empire the Ram, by Alexander the Goat representing the Grecian Empire and then in AD 1967 when the Jews recaptured Jerusalem.

Kind regards
Trevor
 
Greetings Pipiripi,

Revelation 5:9–10 (KJV): 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
There are a number of questions that this Scripture raises.
1. When does this refer to? My answer: At the beginning of the Kingdom, at the return of Jesus from heaven.
2. What does the position of "kings and priests" represent. My answer: The faithful will be given this position as they will rule (as kings or rulers) )over the mortal nations during the Kingdom and instruct these individuals in the ways of God Isaiah 2:1-4.
3. Where will the faithful reign during the Kingdom? My answer: On earth as clearly stated in Revelation 5:10. This is a direct answer as to the PLACE mentioned by Pipripi.

There is another mention of the faithful becoming kings and priests:
Revelation 20:4–6 (KJV): 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
This passage is in parallel with Revelation 5:9-10 and it also gives additional information. Revelation 5:10 teaches that the faithful will reign on the earth, and Revelation 20:4 indicates the duration of this reign upon the earth will be 1000 years. Revelation 20:6 also repeats that that the faithful will be both kings and priests, and again states that this will be for 1000 years.

The question arises as over whom will the faithful be kings, and who will they instruct as priests during the 1000 years? The SDAs do not accept that the faithful will be upon the earth during the 1000 years, nor that the faithful will be kings and priests as they teach that all others except the Sabbath Keeping SDAs will be destroyed.

Kind regards
Trevor
Again you are wrong!! Go read the thread again. Because of taking verses here and there you cannot understand the scriptures.

First, before you study a prophetic book, you must know what the symbols mean in Bible prophecy. Daniel and Revelation

2. When Jesus returns now He wouldn't put His foot on the ground. Matthew 25.

3. This chapter and verses is not written in your Bible. John 14:1-3

When you find John 14:1-3, let me know!!
 
Greetings again Pipiripi,
Again you are wrong!! Go read the thread again. Because of taking verses here and there you cannot understand the scriptures.
The verses that I quoted and explanation that I gave are relevant to an understanding of this subject, and exclude the interpretation that you give based upon a wrong understanding of other verses. Please consider the verses that I quoted.
First, before you study a prophetic book, you must know what the symbols mean in Bible prophecy. Daniel and Revelation
I am now 77 years old and have spent much time considering both the Books of Daniel and the Revelation, and the many symbols in these prophecies.
When Jesus returns now He wouldn't put His foot on the ground. Matthew 25.
You need to also consider Acts 1:11 and Zechariah 14 and especially Zechariah 14:4.
This chapter and verses is not written in your Bible. John 14:1-3 When you find John 14:1-3, let me know!!
Yes, it is in my Bible. The Father's House is the Spiritual Temple and the faithful have a place in this House. Jesus went to the cross to prepare a place for us. It is not speaking about the faithful going to heaven. Jesus is to return to accept all the faithful into his Kingdom upon the earth.

Kind regards
Trevor
 
Greetings again Pipiripi,

The verses that I quoted and explanation that I gave are relevant to an understanding of this subject, and exclude the interpretation that you give based upon a wrong understanding of other verses. Please consider the verses that I quoted.

I am now 77 years old and have spent much time considering both the Books of Daniel and the Revelation, and the many symbols in these prophecies.
Hi Trevor!
Great nice knowing you. I am 60 years young, and God has send my in many Sunday keeping denominations, before He sent me at least to the Saturday Sabbath church SDA.
So, God has prepared me to use only what the Bible teach.
You need to also consider Acts 1:11 and Zechariah 14 and especially Zechariah 14:4.
Acts 1:11 is saying that the same way that the people (apostles) and other person maybe was there focused on how Jesus was taking to heaven, the same manner He will return. So this verse makes the secret rapture theory null!!
The Bible says that Jesus Christ come back as King upon kings, and LORD upon lords. And also Jesus Christ come with great power.
This is the meaning of Zechariah 14:4.
As the place of His ascension, Jesus chose the spot so often hollowed by His presence while He dwelt among men. Not mount Zion, the place of David's city, not mount Moriah, the temple site, was to be thus honored. There Christ had been mocked and rejected. There the waves of mercy, still returning in a stronger tide of love, had been beaten back by hearts as hard as rock ... the holy Shekinah, in departing from the first temple, has stood upon the eastern mountain, as if loath to forsake the chosen city; so Christ stood upon Olivet, with yearning heart overlooking Jerusalem ... upon its summit His feet will rest when He shall come again.
This part has nothing to do with the second coming of Jesus Christ. A question for you, if Jesus come now, should we meet Him in the air, or He will stand on the ground and enter Jerusalem?
Yes, it is in my Bible. The Father's House is the Spiritual Temple and the faithful have a place in this House. Jesus went to the cross to prepare a place for us. It is not speaking about the faithful going to heaven. Jesus is to return to accept all the faithful into his Kingdom upon the earth.

Kind regards
Trevor
This chapter 14 and verse 1-3, means exactly what Jesus says. Read John 17. Why Jesus promise us that He will come back and take us with Him, then change His mind and stay on earth?? Are you calling Jesus a liar??
 
This chapter 14 and verse 1-3, means exactly what Jesus says. Read John 17. Why Jesus promise us that He will come back and take us with Him, then change His mind and stay on earth??
When Jesus Christ comes down from heaven in Rev 19:11ff, there is no verse of scripture saying he goes back up.
 
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