Obedience to God and Jesus is not a requirement for salvation?

[Comingfrom]

In your photo you appear to have both eyes. Are you trying to be a mystic?

How long have you been with Jesus, and you still don't know what He was talking about?
What sort of mystic are you?

Think. How can an eye get offended?
But Jesus said our right eye can.

Do you believe Him?

Spiritual imposters always speak in vague undefined and amorphous terms. They like to sound mysterious and profound when in fact they are saying nothing at all.

The scripture speaks very plainly to me now.
But before I turned my heart to the Lord, there was a veil over it,
and it sounded vague and mysterious to me too.

For until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament;
which vail is done away in Christ.
2 Corinthians 3:15

Come out of the shadows and tell me what it is like when Jesus comes up in the midst of people. Is he visible? Do people break out into tongues? Is there levitation? Is their smoke.

Give me a description.

After I seen Him, I was able to remember some previous times He came to me in my life,
but at the time I was unaware what was happening, and that it was He.
Back then, I called it getting my karma.

Another time, He showed me, that He appeared to my next door neighbour
who was a woman with a wicked heart.
She said that what she saw was a lizard on the road, and that's why she crashed her husband's car into someone's bedroom.

For most people, most of the time, when the Lord appears to them,
they have what is commonly called "a bad hair day".
Because they cannot lift up their eyes to look upon Him.

But who may abide the day of His coming?
and who shall stand when He appeareth?
for He is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:
And He shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver:
and He shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver,
that they may offer unto the Lord an offering in righteousness.
Malachi 3:2-3

Sorry none of that made any sense to me.

Of course, all His word is for all His children.

And those that are of God hear God's words.
I believe these are called the remnant.

For though Thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return:
the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness.
Isaiah 10:22

I have a current understanding but I don't discern one with you. You like the sound of your own words but they convey no meaning. They do not do anyone any good.

Don't eat my words, don't drink my blood.
(But you may sprinkle it about on the forum. )

And that's why I post scripture.
They are the words you aught to understand and believe.
But you are reporting to me that you are confounded.

To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous,
but for you it is safe.
Philippians 3:1

You have turned the entire old covenant into a mystic mess but it does not answer the question as to what God did to eliminate your debt to the law.

You have always tried to hide it away.
Now when someone brings it light, you call it a mystic mess.
That is God's covenant you are talking about.

And I am glad I am a debtor to serve God now.

And ye shall serve the Lord your God,
and he shall bless thy bread, and thy water;
and I will take sickness away from the midst of thee.
Exodus 23:25

This is not what you have been claiming. Before you were saying that he manifests himself to you.

That was my testimony, not my preach.
Christ Jesus takes away the vail that is over our understanding of the word in scripture.

The secret things belong unto the Lord our God:
but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever,
that we may do all the words of this law.
Deuteronomy 29:29

Real devils or are you just talking about sins you engaged in? Did you have evil spirits that took control of your body?

There were a great many tribes, in the land within.

What does the gospels say? the legion.

And Jesus asked him, saying, What is thy name?
And he said, Legion: because many devils were entered into him.
Luke 8:30

And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion,
sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.
Mark 5:15

 

[Grace Accepted]

How long have you been with Jesus, and you still don't know what He was talking about?
What sort of mystic are you?

Think. How can an eye get offended?
But Jesus said our right eye can.

Do you believe Him?

I didn't ask the question to find out if I knew or not, I asked it to see if you knew which apparently you don't.

The scripture speaks very plainly to me now.
But before I turned my heart to the Lord, there was a veil over it,
and it sounded vague and mysterious to me too.

For until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament;
which vail is done away in Christ.
2 Corinthians 3:15

If it is so clear to you, why do you not make it clear to others? Why do you hide your light under a bushel?

After I seen Him, I was able to remember some previous times He came to me in my life,
but at the time I was unaware what was happening, and that it was He.
Back then, I called it getting my karma.

Another time, He showed me, that He appeared to my next door neighbour
who was a woman with a wicked heart.
She said that what she saw was a lizard on the road, and that's why she crashed her husband's car into someone's bedroom.

For most people, most of the time, when the Lord appears to them,
they have what is commonly called "a bad hair day".
Because they cannot lift up their eyes to look upon Him.

But who may abide the day of His coming?
and who shall stand when He appeareth?
for He is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:
And He shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver:
and He shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver,
that they may offer unto the Lord an offering in righteousness.
Malachi 3:2-3

So was Jesus the lizard? You see, you are not clear. There can be many causes for a bad day, to make it into Jesus appearing to you is a stretch. So to be clear, when Jesus manifested himself onto you it was in reality just as a very bad hair day?

In other words, you did not see him physically. You did not hear his voice audibly or touch him. Is that correct.

So what exactly happened that you would know it was him. If you want I can give you an example from my own experience to demonstrate what I am looking for.

Of course, all His word is for all His children.

And those that are of God hear God's words.
I believe these are called the remnant.

For though Thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return:
the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness.
Isaiah 10:22

This is purely subjective. I believe there are truly people who imagine that they are talking to God when they aren't. There needs to be something more than just a claim. With Moses for instance, His face glowed.

Don't eat my words, don't drink my blood.
(But you may sprinkle it about on the forum. )

And that's why I post scripture.
They are the words you aught to understand and believe.
But you are reporting to me that you are confounded.

To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous,
but for you it is safe.
Philippians 3:1

Not confounded as much as doubting. You sound more like a stoner than a prophet, so I am trying to get beneath that layer of metaphor to the reality of you.

Based on the way you post, I always imagine you sitting on the floor cross-legged with incense burning and and bead curtains hanging in your doorway, reciting mystical metaphors while your audience snaps their fingers in applause.

You have always tried to hide it away.
Now when someone brings it light, you call it a mystic mess.
That is God's covenant you are talking about.

Nah, I am a pretty open guy. I tend to cut to the chase, perhaps a bit to fast for most, but you can ask me any questions you may have about what I believe and I will tell you in plain language.

The written word doesn't translate as well as face to face speech, but I am sincere in finding out your story minus all the metaphors. I could hide what I am think about you and just exchange pretty words but where would that get us?

And I am glad I am a debtor to serve God now.

And ye shall serve the Lord your God,
and he shall bless thy bread, and thy water;
and I will take sickness away from the midst of thee.
Exodus 23:25


That was my testimony, not my preach.
Christ Jesus takes away the vail that is over our understanding of the word in scripture.

The secret things belong unto the Lord our God:
but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever,
that we may do all the words of this law.
Deuteronomy 29:29

Do you ever speak in plain language or do you always hide behind metaphors? (P.S. instead of being offended why not consider the question and just give a plain answer?)

There were a great many tribes, in the land within.

What does the gospels say? the legion.

And Jesus asked him, saying, What is thy name?
And he said, Legion: because many devils were entered into him.
Luke 8:30

And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion,
sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.
Mark 5:15

Again, is this a metaphor for behaviours or are you talking about real spiritual entities that are sentient that have possessed you? Again, if you want me to give an example of plain talk, I can relate my own experiences for you.

 

[Comingfrom]

I didn't ask the question to find out if I knew or not, I asked it to see if you knew which apparently you don't.

Wow, you are so quick.
You obviously don't take much time to consider what was said, or what you are writing back.

And now, you are pretending you know something, because I asked back at you.
After you showed me, you didn't know what Jesus is speaking about in Mtt 5:29.

If it is so clear to you, why do you not make it clear to others? Why do you hide your light under a bushel?

Some people just cannot, or will not, receive God's words.
No matter how much you show them.

And thou shalt write upon the stones all the words of this law very plainly.
Deuteronomy 27:8

So was Jesus the lizard? You see, you are not clear.

Of course He was not the lizard.
I am just saying what she said she saw.
God knows what she saw.

Even if it was a lizard she saw, that shouldn't have caused her car to go off the road.

There can be many causes for a bad day, to make it into Jesus appearing to you is a stretch. So to be clear, when Jesus manifested himself onto you it was in reality just as a very bad hair day?

Yet forty days, and this city shall be destroyed.

That shows just how frequently Jesus comes to us.
Those that are not ready for Him, he sets fire to their gates.
That's is how His day is described in scripture. Isn't it?

The great day of the Lord is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the Lord:
the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.
That day is a day of wrath,
a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation,
a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,
a day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high towers.
And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the Lord:
and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung.
Zephaniah 1:14-17

In other words, you did not see him physically. You did not hear his voice audibly or touch him. Is that correct.

He comes up in the middle of me.
I see His pillar stretching all the way up into heaven.
He speaks to me audibly from out of the tabernacle.
His doctrine comes down as rain.

And in every place where the grounded staff shall pass, which the Lord shall lay upon him,
it shall be with tabrets and harps: and in battles of shaking will he fight with it.
Isaiah 30:32

So what exactly happened that you would know it was him. If you want I can give you an example from my own experience to demonstrate what I am looking for.

Many spirits came before He did, saying they are the Christ.

I challenged them to either kill me or save me.
I also challenged them to teach me God's commandments.
None would, until the Lord came.
He like that I was bold with my challenge.

This is purely subjective. I believe there are truly people who imagine that they are talking to God when they aren't. There needs to be something more than just a claim. With Moses for instance, His face glowed.

My face glowed.
My body glowed white.
The whole town still calls me Jesus to this day.
Many came to my house to be healed, and to hear the gospel.
I don't really like to talk about it, lest it sound like I'm boasting.
But since you asked.

Not confounded as much as doubting. You sound more like a stoner than a prophet, so I am trying to get beneath that layer of metaphor to the reality of you.

I do understand.
The gospel of the kingdom sounds strange to your ears,
because you have been baptized in another gospel all your life.

Based on the way you post, I always imagine you sitting on the floor cross-legged with incense burning and and bead curtains hanging in your doorway, reciting mystical metaphors while your audience snaps their fingers in applause.

Actually, I am sitting at my computer, which is on a desk,
and I play some happy music in the background, while I do my scripture searches.

Nah, I am a pretty open guy. I tend to cut to the chase, perhaps a bit to fast for most, but you can ask me any questions you may have about what I believe and I will tell you in plain language.

I do like you. I hope you don't take me wrong.
I think, if we met, we would probably get on very well.
Even though we might not agree on some things.

The written word doesn't translate as well as face to face speech, but I am sincere in finding out your story minus all the metaphors. I could hide what I am think about you and just exchange pretty words but where would that get us?

That is why we offer up wafers,
and have to add oil, the oil we received from Him,
and heaps of frankincense.

And if thou bring an oblation of a meat offering baken in the oven,
it shall be unleavened cakes of fine flour mingled with oil, or unleavened wafers anointed with oil.
Leviticus 2:4

Do you ever speak in plain language or do you always hide behind metaphors? (P.S. instead of being offended why not consider the question and just give a plain answer?)

When speaking with Christians, especially with the big priests like yourself,
I expect them to understand the metaphors the Lord uses.
I expect and encourage them, to use their new tongue.

And if you don't understand, then ask.

Again, is this a metaphor for behaviours or are you talking about real spiritual entities that are sentient that have possessed you? Again, if you want me to give an example of plain talk, I can relate my own experiences for you.

It says very plainly, "Legion, because many devils...".

Not all devils make people appear mad.
Many are simply strongholds which block us from receiving the Lord's word.
False conceptions that prevent one from seeing what the Lord is actually saying.

For example,
those that believe the Lord God commanded men to bring Him cattle for sacrifice,
well that prevents them from bringing their bullocks to Him.
[They still offer up their golden calves upon the forums. Don't they. ]
If they believe God was only speaking to one tribe of people way back when,
well that prevents them from seeing how God's word is still in action today.