Why the Law Works the Wrath of God, Romans 4:15

[Comingfrom]

To be led by the law is to be under the curse, Galatians 3:10.

You have it upside down of course.

And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the Lord your God,
but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day,
to go after other gods, which ye have not known.
Deuteronomy 11:28

Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them.
And all the people shall say, Amen.
Deuteronomy 27:26

Every man is under God's law (lives by every word from His mouth), whether he believes it or not.
No one can escape from God.

To be under the law is to be judged by the law and condemned because the law is a ministration of death, 2 Corinthians 3:7.

Better to be judged by God's law, than to be judged by them who forsake it.

For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord,
that we should not be condemned with the world.
1 Corinthians 11:31-32

Speak not evil one of another, brethren.
He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law:
but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.
James 4:11

 

[robert pate]

You have it upside down of course.

And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the Lord your God,
but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day,
to go after other gods, which ye have not known.
Deuteronomy 11:28

Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them.
And all the people shall say, Amen.
Deuteronomy 27:26

Every man is under God's law (lives by every word from His mouth), whether he believes it or not.
No one can escape from God.

Better to be judged by God's law, than to be judged by them who forsake it.

For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord,
that we should not be condemned with the world.
1 Corinthians 11:31-32

Speak not evil one of another, brethren.
He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law:
but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.
James 4:11

I didn't say that, Paul said that, "For as many as are the works of the law are under the curse" Galatians 3:10. And then in the next scripture he said, "But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God" Galatians 3:11. And then he said, "The law is not of faith" Galatians 3:12.

 

[Comingfrom]

I didn't say that, Paul said that, "For as many as are the works of the law are under the curse" Galatians 3:10. And then in the next scripture he said, "But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God" Galatians 3:11. And then he said, "The law is not of faith" Galatians 3:12.

I first looked to what Jesus said, and then, at His direction, I studied the law,
to get a comprehension of the law.
Jesus said, seek you first the kingdom of heaven, and God's righteousness.

Then I looked again St Paul's writings,
for I still could not believe he was so against God's word as you are, Robert.

And his words are sometimes hard to understand, and men wrestle with them.
Because they don't know the law, and they reject it,
how can they then understand what St Paul is saying? (for he speaks to them that know the law. Rom 7:1)

As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things;
in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest,
as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
2 Peter 3:16

In one ear, I had all these men pointing to St Paul and saying what you say, striving to get me off the law,
in the other ear, I had the Lord Jesus, and His Father, saying keep Our commandments, and the law as the apple of your eye.

It is a mystery to me why so many inclined their ear to the former.
But I guess that must be the curse.

And now Paul's sayings are become clear, and non contradictory to God's words,
because I have all the rest of scripture (the full armor of God) to refer to,
to help me know what St Paul was speaking about.

But this people who knoweth not the law are cursed.
John 7:49

Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed Me.
But ye say, Wherein have we robbed Thee?
In tithes and offerings.
Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed Me,
even this whole nation.
Malachi 3:8-9

 

[robert pate]

I first looked to what Jesus said, and then, at His direction, I studied the law,
to get a comprehension of the law.
Jesus said, seek you first the kingdom of heaven, and God's righteousness.

Then I looked again St Paul's writings,
for I still could not believe he was so against God's word as you are, Robert.

And his words are sometimes hard to understand, and men wrestle with them.
Because they don't know the law, and they reject it,
how can they then understand what St Paul is saying? (for he speaks to them that know the law. Rom 7:1)

As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things;
in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest,
as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
2 Peter 3:16

In one ear, I had all these men pointing to St Paul and saying what you say, striving to get me off the law,
in the other ear, I had the Lord Jesus, and His Father, saying keep Our commandments, and the law as the apple of your eye.

It is a mystery to me why so many inclined their ear to the former.
But I guess that must be the curse.

And now Paul's sayings are become clear, and non contradictory to God's words,
because I have all the rest of scripture (the full armor of God) to refer to,
to help me know what St Paul was speaking about.

But this people who knoweth not the law are cursed.
John 7:49

Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed Me.
But ye say, Wherein have we robbed Thee?
In tithes and offerings.
Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed Me,
even this whole nation.
Malachi 3:8-9

As long as you continue to mix Old Covenant law and religion with New Covenant Gospel and faith you will never, never, never have the truth. Paul was a New Covenant Christian and taught New Covenant theology. This is why the law loving Pharisees wanted to kill him.

 

[Comingfrom]

As long as you continue to mix Old Covenant law and religion with New Covenant Gospel and faith you will never, never, never have the truth.

As long as you keep proclaiming God's truth has been abolished,
you shall stand in your own truth.

Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness,
and Thy law is the truth.
Psalm 119:142

Paul was a New Covenant Christian and taught New Covenant theology. This is why the law loving Pharisees wanted to kill him.

Paul was a man of God.
What the New Covenant Christian who rejects to do God's laws can never be.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
2 Timothy 3:16-17

 

[robert pate]

As long as you keep proclaiming God's truth has been abolished,
you shall stand in your own truth.

Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness,
and Thy law is the truth.
Psalm 119:142


Paul was a man of God.
What the New Covenant Christian who rejects to do God's laws can never be.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
2 Timothy 3:16-17

Obedience is not motivated by laws, rules or religion, obedience is motivated by love. If you have to be told not to sin, then you have a problem. The problem is that you are probably lawless disobedient jerk, 1 Timothy 1:9.

 

[Comingfrom]

Obedience is not motivated by laws, rules or religion, obedience is motivated by love.

Obedience is motivated by love, and by abolishing God's law from your flesh?

Those that love God are more than willing to keep His law. Are they not?
The word is God.

For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments:
and His commandments are not grievous.
1 John 5:3

If you have to be told not to sin, then you have a problem.

I didn't know what sin was, in God's eyes, until I comprehended His law.
Now I know, speaking against His law is one of the worst sins, in His eyes.

It is adultery against God, when you marry [espouse] another doctrine that is not His,
and if you also preach it, that is bearing false witness.

For until the law sin was in the world:
but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Romans 5:13

The problem is that you are probably lawless disobedient jerk, 1 Timothy 1:9.

If a man keep Jesus' saying, he shall never see a problem.

But if a man doesn't keep Jesus' saying, he never sees life,
and tends to presume the worst.

I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God;
but with the flesh the law of sin.
Romans 7:25

Praise God's law

 

[robert pate]

Obedience is motivated by love, and by abolishing God's law from your flesh?

Those that love God are more than willing to keep His law. Are they not?
The word is God.

For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments:
and His commandments are not grievous.
1 John 5:3


I didn't know what sin was, in God's eyes, until I comprehended His law.
Now I know, speaking against His law is one of the worst sins, in His eyes.

It is adultery against God, when you marry [espouse] another doctrine that is not His,
and if you also preach it, that is bearing false witness.

For until the law sin was in the world:
but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Romans 5:13


If a man keep Jesus' saying, he shall never see a problem.

But if a man doesn't keep Jesus' saying, he never sees life,
and tends to presume the worst.

I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God;
but with the flesh the law of sin.
Romans 7:25

Praise God's law

Sorry comingfrom. I am no longer participating on this Forum. I am now on Christian Forums UK.

 

[Comingfrom]

Sorry comingfrom. I am no longer participating on this Forum. I am now on Christian Forums UK.

I'm sorry to hear that too.
I hope, that despite our differences, there are no hard feelings between us.
Though I don't believe as you believe, I still like you.

Have a blessed walk with Jesus