Mattathias
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“Be humble, talk little, think and pray much.” - George Whitefield
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Mattathias
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“The greatest kindness one can render to any man is leading him to truth.” - Augustine
Funny. I’m reading a book now called No More Christian Nice Guy. The author observes modern churches substitute being good with being nice.
It may not be nice to break through the wall of deception, reinforced with confirmation bias and emotional investment - but it is good.
And the first truth is that we are not inherently good but sinful. Protecting this lie that we are good is our pride. My ex-wife could not humble herself and admit to herself the errors of her ways. She thought of herself as so innocent, completely unwilling to hold herself accountable. This explains why she is my ex-wife.
Great! It’s important to get rid of waste and garbage.How'd that work out?
Mattathias
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“It’s not that God is silent. It is that men are deaf.” - John MacArthur
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I like that quote...
But since John MacArthur said it, I'm pretty sure he means that the ONLY way to "hear" from God
is through Bible reading, or evangelical preaching. This is a very limiting mindset.
Am I misunderstanding the man?
Here's another quote by him:
"Evangelicals have absolutely no idea what they believe." - John MacArthur
Why do we need the church to TELL us what we believe?
Must we surrender our right to our own beliefs to be a part of the church?
There is even a famous book titled: Know What You Believe
Which is there to inform you of what you haven't a clue about.
Brainwashing, obviously.
Not to say that there isn't a need for religious training, but...
this approach leaves MUCH to be desired.
Saw this video of John MacArthur lamenting the sorry state of Evangelicalism in 2022.
Ligonier ministries had done a survey of Evangelicals. The findings, per MacArthur, were "shocking".
65% of Evangelicals agreed that everyone is born innocent.
55% agreed that the Bible is not literally true.
56% agreed that God accepts worship from all religions.
43% agreed that Jesus was a good teacher, but not God.
"Evangelicals have absolutely no idea what they believe." - John MacArthur
Really? It seems as if the survey results TOLD you EXACTLY what they believe.
How can you claim that they "have absolutely no idea what they believe"?
If we reverse the percentages, what do we get? (hope my math is correct) - LOL
35% of Evangelicals DIS-agreed that everyone is born innocent.
45% DIS-agreed that the Bible is not literally true.
44% DIS-agreed that God accepts worship from all religions.
67% DIS-agreed that Jesus was a good teacher, but not God.
So here's the BIG question...
Why do we need the church to TELL us what we believe?
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Mattathias
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Sounds like a good topic for a new thread.
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“A false conclusion once arrived at and widely accepted is not easily dislodged; and the less it is understood, the more tenaciously it is held.” - Georg Cantor
SteVen
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Mattathias
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“He who is his own teacher, is sure to have a fool for his master!” - William Gurnall
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“An unwatchful church will soon become an unholy church.” - Charles Spurgeon