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And where does scripture say that?
And where does scripture say that?
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In Hebrews chapter 1 verse 6, God the Father says to WORSHIP Jesus Christ
In verse 8 and 9 the Father addresses Jesus Christ as GOD
in verses 10-12 the Father addresses Jesus as the actual Creator. Genesis 1.1 say that "in the beginning GOD Created..."
These are some Bible FACTS about Jesus Christ
It does not change whether you accept them or not
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Because the devil is a created being and not omniscient as God is
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Same question.
Hey by the way..... did you ever take a minute to make that personal introduction post?
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Same question.
Hey by the way..... did you ever take a minute to make that personal introduction post?
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Same answer. I am still thinking about it
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Mattathias
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The OP neglected to inform readers that his theology denies that Jesus is a human person. I won’t speculate about the reason(s) for the omission, and I presume that he would acknowledge it if he were asked.
Jesus of Nazareth isn’t a human person.
Is that the impression that the average person who doesn’t know anything about trinitarianism would have of him when reading about him in the Bible for the first time?
Jesus of Nazareth isn’t a human person.
Is that the impression that the average person who doesn’t know anything about trinitarianism would have of him when reading about him in the Bible for the first time?
Mattathias
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“It may sound odd (or even blasphemous) to say that Jesus Christ is not a human person, but this is precisely true.”
douglasbeaumont.com
Is it precisely true? Trinitarianism says that it is.
If you want to be a trinitarian, be a trinitarian. Tell everyone you know, and as many as you don’t know but can reach: Jesus Christ is not a human person.
Why Jesus Christ is Not a Human Person
It may sound odd (or even blasphemous) to say that Jesus Christ is not a human person, but this is precisely true. The problem is that this is a very metaphysically precise statement and most peopl…
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Is it precisely true? Trinitarianism says that it is.
If you want to be a trinitarian, be a trinitarian. Tell everyone you know, and as many as you don’t know but can reach: Jesus Christ is not a human person.
Mattathias
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“It is easy to fall prey to false suppositions that can lead to heresy when we speak of our Christology. It seems logical to say, ‘Because Christ is fully human, he had to be a human person.’ But the truth is, the former is correct, but the later is a non-sequitur.”
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Trinitarianism isn’t logical and has never claimed to be.
Christ is fully human. - Correct, says trinitarianism.
He had to be a human person. - Incorrect. A non-sequitur, says trinitarianism.
Non-sequitur -> “A non-sequitur is a conclusion or reply that doesn’t follow logically from the previous statement.”
If we think Jesus is a human person because he is fully human (or for any other reason) then trinitarianism tells us that we’re thinking illiogically.
Trinitarianism isn’t a logical theology.
Is Jesus a Human Person? - TimStaples.com
After writing my last post, “When the Word was Made Flesh, Did God Change?” I received an excellent follow-up question. One of my readers still could not get past just how we can say Christ was truly and “fully man,” and yet not be a “human person.” He asked if we could say that somehow Christ...
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Trinitarianism isn’t logical and has never claimed to be.
Christ is fully human. - Correct, says trinitarianism.
He had to be a human person. - Incorrect. A non-sequitur, says trinitarianism.
Non-sequitur -> “A non-sequitur is a conclusion or reply that doesn’t follow logically from the previous statement.”
If we think Jesus is a human person because he is fully human (or for any other reason) then trinitarianism tells us that we’re thinking illiogically.
Trinitarianism isn’t a logical theology.
Mattathias
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“Question:
If Jesus’ human nature is created, does that make him a creature?
Answer:
While Jesus has a human nature, he is not a human person. He is a divine person with a human and divine nature.”
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If Jesus’ human nature is created, does that make him a creature?
Answer:
While Jesus has a human nature, he is not a human person. He is a divine person with a human and divine nature.”
Is Jesus a Creature?
While Jesus has a human nature, he is not a human person. Jesus is a divine person with a human and divine nature. The Catechism of the Catholic Church: After t...
Mattathias
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“There is only one person who is Christ, and that person is divine. Thus, there is no human person named ‘Jesus of Nazareth.’ Jesus is a divine person, and medieval theologians were careful never to refer to Jesus as a human person.”
www.biola.edu
There is no human person named “Jesus of Nazareth.”
I never heard my Southern Baptist pastor say that from the pulpit. He should have. Why didn’t he?
Is Worship of Jesus Idolatry?
This is the weekly Q & A blog post by our Research Professor in Philosophy, Dr. William Lane Craig. Question Hello Dr. Craig, First, I want to thank you for all that you have done for the cause of Christ. You have been a powerful witness for the faith....
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There is no human person named “Jesus of Nazareth.”
I never heard my Southern Baptist pastor say that from the pulpit. He should have. Why didn’t he?