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oops, meant that the other way around....thanks;wut? Acts was written long before Joel?
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Yes the church is called out from the faithless world daily. . they are ones being saved .
The first listed apostle (sent one) sent with prophecy was Able. Abel is also the first martyr listed. His blood that cries out longing to be clothed with the incorruptible ( the righteousness of Christ) like the blood of all saints that make up the bride of Christ the church .
The 12 a remnant of the 27 listed in the new they were set aside to help understand the description of the bride (Revaltion 21..)
12 is a number used throughout the bible that represent the authority of God used in various parables .(the signified understanding.).
Apostle "sent one" with no other meaning added .Somehow it means "venerable ones" as "puffed up daily the ones being saved .above as it is written today, as if we did serve a hierarchy of men. (law of the fathers I heard it through the grape vine )
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And do you believe that the BODY of CHRIST is the BRIDE ?
And Jer 3:8 lets all know that CHRIST was already MARRIED to Israel and Judah !!
Is Christ a bigamist ?
A book on NUMBERS by BULLINGER is a must to have called NUMBER IN SCRIPTURE !
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No not a bigamist he divorced Israel. Not all Israel are born again Christians the new name the father named the bride in Acts. He again divorced the Jews who did not have the born again Spirit of Christ . If any man has not the Spirit of Christ the Holy Spirit of God then neither do they belong to him
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No, He divorced Israel because of their whoredom, Idolatry, fornication and other sins. After the Church (body of Christ) is removed from the earth, Jesus will mediate a reunion between God, the Father and His divorced wife, the Remnant of Israel. First Israel must go through Daniel's 70th week with includes the "Great Tribulation/Jacobs Troubles". Only the believers after 2/3 of Jews die will the remaining 1/3 be saved and given the New Covenant He speaks of in Jer 31:31 and Heb 8:8.
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Previously the born again bride was called Israel. defined as ; He who wrestles against flesh and blood and strengthened by the power of Christ they over come .
Genesis 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.
In Isaiah 62 he promised to name her a new name a more befitting name for all the nations the promise of Joel a new kingdom of priest men and woman prophets.
Isaiah 62:1-5 For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth. And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name. Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the Lord, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God. Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the Lord delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married. For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.
In that way as a bride Paul as a surrogate mother suffered as in pains of birth until Christ formed a new born again spirit in Timothy. later Paul espouses Timothy as a chaste virgin bride helping us understand "so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoices over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.
The beautiful city prepared as the bride the residents of the city giving meaning to the word Christian with no other meaning added . A demonym :Resident of the city of Christ prepared as his bride named after her founder and husband Christ.
Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
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Not a salvation issue I see that a little differently
God is no respecter of the flesh. he is not served by human hands in any way shape or form as if His kingdom was of this world.(Acts 17:25-28 ) In that way God can use a unbeliever to preach the gospel just as easily as one that does have the faith of Christ.
Not all Israel is born again Israel. You could say in the same way not all that name the name Christian are Christians the new name he named His bride. Or a Jew is not one outwardly according to the flesh but one inwardly born again of the Spirit of Christ. In that way if any man has not the Holy Spirit of Christ then thy do not belong as the bride of Christ.
I look at the first century reformation the restoring the government of God to Judges before there were kings in Israel (the abomination of desolation ) the reformation brought "Great Tribulation (Jacobs Troubles") Jacob meaning the deceiver the name he previously named divorced Israel . A time in Israel unlike ever before or ever again . A time of Joy great Joy for the gentiles and the believing Jewish Christians .
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you have a big chip on your shoulder....the reformation brought on the Great-Tribulation?
Really....Jacob is Israel.....and is righteous in the eyes of GOD.....yet you keep giving GOD bad marks?
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Hi thanks for the reply
Again I would offer each word has meaning applied to them . Jacob was never called the bride of Christ used in parables . His name means deceiver it was changed to represent the bride Israel .
Israel is the first name that identifies with those empowered with God as overcomers. The father promised to name her a new name , one more befitting to the bride of all nations of the world .He named her Christian in Acts .A word that literally means : "residents of the city of Christ" prepared as his eternal bride named after her husband Christ the founder of the beautiful city .
Isiah 62:1-5 For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth. And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name. Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the Lord, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God.Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the Lord delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married. For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.
It is when Satan fell no longer having the ability to deceive all the nations of the world that a person must become a outward Jew according to the flesh. Great joy for the inward born again Jew called Israel
Many misinterpret the parable (Revelation 20) teaching Satan is not deceiving anyone and not the nations . the veil was rent there was no jewish king sitting in the holy of Holies teaching us to walk by the faith as it is written (the unseen eternal) and not the doctrines of men as oral traditions
Revelation20: 3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
Even the Son of man, Jesus the prophet and chief apostle informed us that his Jewish flesh profits for nothing . It is the unseen Spirt that empowers the believer that works in us that can profit .
A great tribulation for a outward Jew that continues today those that was hoping there Jewish flesh could profit for something. . The walls of separation fell down