The Chaos Monster in Genesis 1

[EarlyActs]

Thanks, I'll check it out.
I am also familiar with the Mesopotamian concept of Tiamat, the personification of primordial chaos depicted as a sea serpent/dragon that their god Marduk slays.

Waltke predates this teacher so his info may be pre-Ugaritic.

 

[Mr G Lee]

Dr. Michael Heiser explains the Hebrew word tannı̂yn / tannı̂ym and what it meant to ancient people.
Manuscripts found in the ancient Canaanite city of Ugarit sheds light on the terminology.


Genesis 1 ESV
(21) So God created the great sea creatures and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.


Psalms 74 ESV
(13) You divided the sea by your might; you broke the heads of the sea monsters on the waters.
(14) You crushed the heads of Leviathan; you gave him as food for the creatures of the wilderness.



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Reptiles can keep growing till they die, while mammals (including man) stop growing …

Reptiles lived thousands of years before the flood. The flood starved out the lager reptiles especially the meat eaters.

 

[Comingfrom]

I think someone blew out your pilot light.

I think this thread is about the Leviathan.

Out of His mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out.
Out of His nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron.
His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of His mouth.
In His neck remaineth strength, and sorrow is turned into joy before Him.
Job 41:19-22

 

[Sissy]

Reptiles can keep growing till they die, while mammals (including man) stop growing …

Reptiles lived thousands of years before the flood. The flood starved out the lager reptiles especially the meat eaters.

Do you think the Chaos monster was an actual reptile?

 

[Sissy]

I think this thread is about the Leviathan.

That speaks soft words to you, that is loved by you.

 

[Mr G Lee]

Do you think the Chaos monster was an actual reptile?

No it was the spirit of error Lucifer or the father of lies a murderer from the beginning who began with deceiving seducing Cain to slay Abel and bury him under (out of sight out of mind.) The pagan foundation. Abel the first recorded apostle , martyr .

 

[Comingfrom]

That speaks soft words to you, that is loved by you.

Sorrow is turned into joy before Him.

The flakes of His flesh are joined together: they are firm in themselves; they cannot be moved.
His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone.
When He raiseth up Himself, the mighty are afraid:
by reason of breakings they purify themselves.
Job 41:23-25

 

[Mr G Lee]

Sorrow is turned into joy before Him.

The flakes of His flesh are joined together: they are firm in themselves; they cannot be moved.
His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone.
When He raiseth up Himself, the mighty are afraid:
by reason of breakings they purify themselves.
Job 41:23-25

What translation is that?

Sorrow is turned into death before him .(small h .) thou shalt not surely die look at my flesh and live forever why believe in a God not seen .The letter of the law "death"

Job 41: 23 The flakes of his flesh are joined together: they are firm in themselves; they cannot be moved. His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone. When he raiseth up himself, the mighty are afraid: by reason of breakings they purify themselves. (shuddering they retreat)

Job 20:16 He shall suck the poison of asps: the viper's tongue shall slay him.

The spirit of judgement .

 

[Comingfrom]

What translation is that?

KJV

Sorrow is turned into death before him .(small h .)

I capitalized 'Him', to make it a pronoun, so you know it is not referring to a man.
And to honour Him.

thou shalt not surely die

Saith the devil to Eve.

look at my flesh and live forever

Whoso eats the Lord's flesh shall have everlasting life,
and the Lord raises them up in the last day.

why believe in a God not seen .

Because He opened the window of heaven, and poured me out a blessing.

The letter of the law "death"

Then do it in spirit, and not in the letter.
God wants us to worship Him in spirit.

Job 41: 23 The flakes of his flesh are joined together: they are firm in themselves; they cannot be moved. His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone. When he raiseth up himself, the mighty are afraid: by reason of breakings they purify themselves. (shuddering they retreat)

And He shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver:
and He shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver,
that they may offer unto the Lord an offering in righteousness.
Malachi 3:3

Job 20:16 He shall suck the poison of asps: the viper's tongue shall slay him.

Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions,
and over all the power of the enemy:
and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
Luke 10:19

The spirit of judgement .

When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion,
and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof
by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.
Isaiah 4:4

But who may abide the day of His coming?
and who shall stand when He appeareth?
for He is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:
Malachi 3:2

Whose fan is in His hand,
and He will thoroughly purge His floor, and gather His wheat into the garner;
but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
Matthew 3:12

 

[Mr G Lee]

I capitalized 'Him', to make it a pronoun, so you know it is not referring to a man.
And to honour Him.

You capitalized 'Him to honor the devil?

 

[Comingfrom]

You capitalized 'Him to honor the devil?

Him, in this instance, is that behemoth called the Leviathan.

He is the chief of the ways of God:
He that made Him can make His sword to approach unto Him.
Job 40:19