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Is Creation BY or THROUGH Jesus Christ?

7thMoon said:
It is in't by him or through him, whatever it was according to the Greek of the verse is was in him that it was done.
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your Greek grammar is very much faulty!

In John 1:3, it says, "πάντα δι’ αὐτοῦ ἐγένετο", where the Greek preposition cannot mean IN, by either BY, if Jesus Himself is The Creator, or WITH, if understood of the Father and Holy Spirit as well.
 
@ICHTHUS
Col 1:16
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
ὅτι ἐν αὐτῷ ἐκτίσθη
 
7thMoon said:
@ICHTHUS
Col 1:16
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
ὅτι ἐν αὐτῷ ἐκτίσθη
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you should give the entire verse in Greek

ὅτι ἐν αὐτῷ ἐκτίσθη τὰ πάντα ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς καὶ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς, τὰ ὁρατὰ καὶ τὰ ἀόρατα, εἴτε θρόνοι εἴτε κυριότητες εἴτε ἀρχαὶ εἴτε ἐξουσίαι· τὰ πάντα δι’ αὐτοῦ καὶ εἰς αὐτὸν ἔκτισται

You can see the THREE different prepositions used here for Creation IN, BY and FOR Jesus Christ!
 
ICHTHUS said:
you should give the entire verse in Greek

ὅτι ἐν αὐτῷ ἐκτίσθη τὰ πάντα ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς καὶ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς, τὰ ὁρατὰ καὶ τὰ ἀόρατα, εἴτε θρόνοι εἴτε κυριότητες εἴτε ἀρχαὶ εἴτε ἐξουσίαι· τὰ πάντα δι’ αὐτοῦ καὶ εἰς αὐτὸν ἔκτισται

You can see the THREE different prepositions used here for Creation IN, BY and FOR Jesus Christ!
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δια means through not by
 
Attempting to find the Trinity in Greek, because you could not find it in ENGLISH, is tri-denial...
 
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