To believe that God chose some certain persons to salvation and damned the rest to hell is to believe that God is unjust. To believe that God is unjust means that you cannot trust in him. This is why Calvinism is self-defeating and is a first-class ticket to hell.This is what you first said that I denied.
Yes, cannons of Dort say that. The Bible says that: Eph 1:5, so I believe it. It is further solidified in many verses, but I will give a few.
Eph 1:11; Romans 11:5-6; Romans 9:15-16; Romans 8:33; Romans 8:28-30; 2 Thess 2:13; 1 Peter 1:2; Psalm 65:4;
That is the Pelagius heresy. It is also largely adopted by the Catholics who you also hate and pronounce the judgment of everlasting hell on (as though it was you and not Jesus who was appointed to that position.)Everyone has been provided with mercy and grace by the doing and the dying of Jesus, Hebrews 2:9.
If you believed what the Bible says about election and predestination, you wouldn't need Pelagius in order to reduce your salvation to your own free will.If you were saved by grace through faith, you would not need Calvinism. You have perverted your faith with Calvinism.
To call anything God does unjust simply because you can't accept it and take it upon yourself to define for Him what is just and unjust, ought to terrify you and cause you to beg for mercy in repentance, and even, if you could, find an ounce of courage in your free will, ask Him to show you who He is, even if you don't like it. If you were to do so, you would also need to ask for the strength to endure it. Your view of God would make but a single drop in His fullness.To believe that God chose some certain persons to salvation and damned the rest to hell is to believe that God is unjust. To believe that God is unjust means that you cannot trust in him. This is why Calvinism is self-defeating and is a first-class ticket to hell.
You know RP much of what you say should cause you to shudder at your own audacity and the way in which you so casually usurp Christ as the Judge of the living and the dead. But it doesn't. Even after you have been corrected, and corrected through the imperatives of scripture, you continue on in it unabashed. This is evidence of a couple of things.To believe that God chose some certain persons to salvation and damned the rest to hell is to believe that God is unjust. To believe that God is unjust means that you cannot trust in him. This is why Calvinism is self-defeating and is a first-class ticket to hell.
Your Calvinist God is unjust. The God of the Bible is not unjust.To call anything God does unjust simply because you can't accept it and take it upon yourself to define for Him what is just and unjust, ought to terrify you and cause you to beg for mercy in repentance, and even, if you could, find an ounce of courage in your free will, ask Him to show you who He is, even if you don't like it. If you were to do so, you would also need to ask for the strength to endure it. Your view of God would make but a single drop in His fullness.
That is still you having the gall to define for God what is just and unjust, in spite of having been warned time and again, that this is what you are doing. Measuring the Almighty God by your puny self, and how that means you are creating a God of your own imagination.Your Calvinist God is unjust. The God of the Bible is not unjust.
The God of the Bible "Is longsuffering towards us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance" 2 Peter 3:9.
Where in the Bible does it say that man lost his free will? Adam didn't lose his free will, what he lost was his relationship with God. God chose Jesus to be the savior of the world before the foundation of the world, Ephesians 1:4. You continue to try and prove that God is a respecter of persons. God chose all of humanity in Jesus Christ, not individuals. No one has been predestinated, that would make God unjust and unrighteous. God is not unjust or unrighteous. What is unjust and unrighteous is your Calvinist religion.That is still you having the gall to define for God what is just and unjust, in spite of having been warned time and again, that this is what you are doing. Measuring the Almighty God by your puny self, and how that means you are creating a God of your own imagination.
2Peter 3:9. "is longsuffering towards US, (Peter is speaking to Christians) not willing that any (of us. Those elect in future time) should perish." This would make the passage consistent with the other truths of the Bible, ("called," "chosen," "chosen before the foundation of the world," "predestined," "elect,") not to mention the very character and attributes of God that show Him to be sovereign and governing all things. And though there are passages in scripture that show man has a will and that he freely makes choices, there are none that say his will is free, and that in this freedom is quite capable of choosing God. If he didn't have a sin nature he could, but that is not the case. He loves his sin much more than he loves God, and it is this very bondage of his will that WILL NOT choose God, unless he is reborn in Christ, and that by the Holy Spirit. John 3.
It never says man had free will. Show me where it does. So there would be no point in saying he lost it. Free will is a manufactured, meaningless,, and absurd phrase.Where in the Bible does it say that man lost his free will
He lost his innocence. At his inception he could choose to obey God or not and he chose not. As a result all the rest of us have the propensity and desire to sin in our very nature. That is the very bondage Jesus came to remove. And Adam didn't lose his relationship with God, but it changed. After all, God clothed Adam and Eve in animal skins---the very first shadowing of Christ.Adam didn't lose his free will, what he lost was his relationship with God.
I am not trying to prove anything. As we have already gone over and I have clearly shown you, that passage you use to disprove predestination is talking about something else entirely. It is talking about the gospel going to the Gentiles, and with no respect as to a person's nationality, ethnicity, place of birth or residence, situation in life, or anything else. This was demonstrated by a Gentile receiving the same Holy Spirit as the Jews at Pentecost, the very thing that prompted the statement by Peter. But---sigh---you can't imagine yourself ever being wrong and certainly would never admit it.You continue to try and prove that God is a respecter of persons.
If God chose all humanity to be in Christ, then all humanity would be in Christ. If not, you are saying that God is a failure. And even worse, that Jesus is---He died in vain in that case.God chose all of humanity in Jesus Christ, not individuals
Then you deny much of the Bible. You deny that God is who He says He is. You replace Him with a God that you measure by your own standards. You are constantly shaking your fist at Him.No one has been predestinated, that would make God unjust and unrighteous. God is not unjust or unrighteous. What is unjust and unrighteous is your Calvinist religion.
All of that and 0 scripture.It never says man had free will. Show me where it does. So there would be no point in saying he lost it. Free will is a manufactured, meaningless,, and absurd phrase.
He lost his innocence. At his inception he could choose to obey God or not and he chose not. As a result all the rest of us have the propensity and desire to sin in our very nature. That is the very bondage Jesus came to remove. And Adam didn't lose his relationship with God, but it changed. After all, God clothed Adam and Eve in animal skins---the very first shadowing of Christ.
I am not trying to prove anything. As we have already gone over and I have clearly shown you, that passage you use to disprove predestination is talking about something else entirely. It is talking about the gospel going to the Gentiles, and with no respect as to a person's nationality, ethnicity, place of birth or residence, situation in life, or anything else. This was demonstrated by a Gentile receiving the same Holy Spirit as the Jews at Pentecost, the very thing that prompted the statement by Peter. But---sigh---you can't imagine yourself ever being wrong and certainly would never admit it.
If God chose all humanity to be in Christ, then all humanity would be in Christ. If not, you are saying that God is a failure. And even worse, that Jesus is---He died in vain in that case.
Then you deny much of the Bible. You deny that God is who He says He is. You replace Him with a God that you measure by your own standards. You are constantly shaking your fist at Him.