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    The Case Against Eternal Security - NOSAS

    The L of F is just representative of complete destruction, even as a literal fire completely destroys. Consider this: The Greek word ai·oʹni·os (and Hebrew equivalent oh·lamʹ) can mean forever in the sense that something never comes to an end or they can mean something that lasts into the...
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    The Case Against Eternal Security - NOSAS

    The L of F is just representative of complete destruction, even as a literal fire completely destroys. At Revelation 20:13,14, among the things “cast into” the L of F, is death. It’s telling us that death will be no more. And that’s what Revelation 21:4 (the very next chapter) says: “death will...
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    The Case Against Eternal Security - NOSAS

    Thanks for the question! No, I don’t. I’ll explain my understanding. Just as Christ was “put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the Spirit” — or as the NLT words it, Jesus “suffered physical death, but he was raised to life in the Spirit” (1Peter3:18) — so with those in the “first...
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    The Case Against Eternal Security - NOSAS

    For @SteVen Addendum: What’s the result? Well, if there’s no life, then it’s dead…forever. In my study of the Bible, Hell / Hades/ Sheol / the Grave is from which people will be resurrected (Revelation 20:13,14). OTOH, Gehenna is the L of F, the second death, from which those thrown in...
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    The Case Against Eternal Security - NOSAS

    No problem. Simple answer: yes. According to Romans 6:23, life is “the gift.” From God. If some want to misuse it, and hurt others, God will simply take that gift away from them. What’s the result? Well, if there’s no life, then it’s dead…forever.
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    The Case Against Eternal Security - NOSAS

    To whom it may concern: 1 Corinthians 5
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    The Case Against Eternal Security - NOSAS

    Yes….because the “goats” will at that time be ‘cut-off forever.’ (Matthew 25:33,46) And the “wicked/treacherous” will be ‘torn away from the earth.’ - Proverbs 2:22 Neither do I…. It’s a view completely contrary to God’s justice & love, 2 of His cardinal qualities. Such heinous dogma reveals...
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    The Case Against Eternal Security - NOSAS

    Is that what the Bible says will happen, my friend? Even Jesus didn’t teach that. He spoke of ‘everlasting destruction.’ Which is what the Lake of Fire / Gehenna represents. God doesn’t interfere with our choices. He doesn’t ‘make’ us or force us to do a thing…. He wants loyalty from our heart...
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    The Case Against Eternal Security - NOSAS

    I completely agree! Now here, I disagree. Sure there’s a purpose. Wicked people’s actions hurt the innocent. The incorrigibly wicked don’t have to be tormented, but they do need to be gone. Like Satan. Who’s incorrigible? God will make that choice. He’s the perfect judge.
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    The Case Against Eternal Security - NOSAS

    It’s a healthy fear, like children not wanting to displease their parents… make them unhappy. As an example: Now, (for the majority) parents love their kids. But if parents lay down a penalty for something (say, getting drunk), and the child gets drunk, sometimes the love the parent has, will...
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    Defining the godhead - an open discussion on Unitarianism, Binitarianism and Trinitarianism

    You know, you’re right. On this or any forum, where we just discuss & exchange ideas, without really knowing each other — being kind and respectful can be productive. I see that in your responses, too. Good for you. I’d suspect you have a lot of friends, too. Do you? @SteVen , you seem...
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    What makes a doctrine false?

    What makes you say that? Are you a secularist, or do you subscribe solely to natural methodologies? The same genealogy, in verses 31 & 32, says “….David, 32 the son of Jesse, the son of Obed, the son of Boaz…” & Vs.33 continues, “….Judah, 34 the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of...
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    What makes a doctrine false?

    Thanks for the invitation. Jesus’ words @ Matthew 24:13, & others. Why would Jesus say that if He believed in OSAS? Even Paul supported Jesus’ view. Show me what verses you believe support OSAS. Jesus worshipped his Dad, the Creator, the God of the Hebrews. (John 20:17) So do I. I accept...
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    What makes a doctrine false?

    I really believe the Bible has the truth within it, IOW it doesn’t contradict itself and it teaches a definite way to believe certain doctrines. Because it’s from one Author. And it requires His help to understand it. (Like 10:21) Yes, Jesus’ Father. Yahweh. Not Jesus. So if people are not...
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    Biblical proof that there is no angels

    Regarding Elohim…. It can mean plural, as in “gods”; but it can also denote ‘excellence,’ as Judges 16:23 reveals. The term was used when the Philistines were describing their main god, Dagon. Dagon was not a triad, or anything of the sort. To them, he was a god of supremacy, with no rival….or...
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