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The L of F is just representative of complete destruction, even as a literal fire completely destroys. Consider this: The Greek word ai·oʹni·os (and Hebrew equivalent oh·lamʹ) can mean forever in the sense that something never comes to an end or they can mean something that lasts into the...

The L of F is just representative of complete destruction, even as a literal fire completely destroys. At Revelation 20:13,14, among the things “cast into” the L of F, is death. It’s telling us that death will be no more. And that’s what Revelation 21:4 (the very next chapter) says: “death will...

Thanks for the question! No, I don’t. I’ll explain my understanding. Just as Christ was “put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the Spirit” — or as the NLT words it, Jesus “suffered physical death, but he was raised to life in the Spirit” (1Peter3:18) — so with those in the “first...

For @SteVen Addendum: What’s the result? Well, if there’s no life, then it’s dead…forever. In my study of the Bible, Hell / Hades/ Sheol / the Grave is from which people will be resurrected (Revelation 20:13,14). OTOH, Gehenna is the L of F, the second death, from which those thrown in...

No problem. Simple answer: yes. According to Romans 6:23, life is “the gift.” From God. If some want to misuse it, and hurt others, God will simply take that gift away from them. What’s the result? Well, if there’s no life, then it’s dead…forever.

To whom it may concern: 1 Corinthians 5

Yes….because the “goats” will at that time be ‘cut-off forever.’ (Matthew 25:33,46) And the “wicked/treacherous” will be ‘torn away from the earth.’ - Proverbs 2:22 Neither do I…. It’s a view completely contrary to God’s justice & love, 2 of His cardinal qualities. Such heinous dogma reveals...

Is that what the Bible says will happen, my friend? Even Jesus didn’t teach that. He spoke of ‘everlasting destruction.’ Which is what the Lake of Fire / Gehenna represents. God doesn’t interfere with our choices. He doesn’t ‘make’ us or force us to do a thing…. He wants loyalty from our heart...

I completely agree! Now here, I disagree. Sure there’s a purpose. Wicked people’s actions hurt the innocent. The incorrigibly wicked don’t have to be tormented, but they do need to be gone. Like Satan. Who’s incorrigible? God will make that choice. He’s the perfect judge.

It’s a healthy fear, like children not wanting to displease their parents… make them unhappy. As an example: Now, (for the majority) parents love their kids. But if parents lay down a penalty for something (say, getting drunk), and the child gets drunk, sometimes the love the parent has, will...

You know, you’re right. On this or any forum, where we just discuss & exchange ideas, without really knowing each other — being kind and respectful can be productive. I see that in your responses, too. Good for you. I’d suspect you have a lot of friends, too. Do you? @SteVen , you seem...

What makes you say that? Are you a secularist, or do you subscribe solely to natural methodologies? The same genealogy, in verses 31 & 32, says “….David, 32 the son of Jesse, the son of Obed, the son of Boaz…” & Vs.33 continues, “….Judah, 34 the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of...

Thanks for the invitation. Jesus’ words @ Matthew 24:13, & others. Why would Jesus say that if He believed in OSAS? Even Paul supported Jesus’ view. Show me what verses you believe support OSAS. Jesus worshipped his Dad, the Creator, the God of the Hebrews. (John 20:17) So do I. I accept...

I really believe the Bible has the truth within it, IOW it doesn’t contradict itself and it teaches a definite way to believe certain doctrines. Because it’s from one Author. And it requires His help to understand it. (Like 10:21) Yes, Jesus’ Father. Yahweh. Not Jesus. So if people are not...

Regarding Elohim…. It can mean plural, as in “gods”; but it can also denote ‘excellence,’ as Judges 16:23 reveals. The term was used when the Philistines were describing their main god, Dagon. Dagon was not a triad, or anything of the sort. To them, he was a god of supremacy, with no rival….or...

Angels are the “sons of God” mentioned in Job 38:7, rejoicing after Earth was created. Job 1 also mentioned “sons of God”, among whom Satan entered, to take his ‘station’ before Jehovah. Angels are also mentioned in 2 Peter 2:4 as ‘sinning’ (as all of God’s intelligent creatures can do through...

On another site my username is Hockeycowboy. So I just went with the initials. I like that. Reminds me of a joke: What does a 500 lb. canary say? “Here kitty, kitty!” (Said in deep voice) (I also like jokes.)

1 John 4:8

Very good replies! In my over 40 yrs. of studying the Scriptures, I’ve discovered that the context of, ie., the content surrounding, these verses often clarify them in a way that doesn’t support a Trinitarian view.

Hello to everyone. I try to look at all people as my distant cousins, which I truly believe we are. And I like to discuss science, and how scientific facts support the Bible — the 66-book canon. I accept Jesus as my Savior, and as His follower, I worship Who Jesus worshipped: his Father...