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After truthfully and prayerfully reading this whole page, there is only one outcome you can arrive at at. Now the question is - which is more important to you - your "church", or Jehovah and His truth? To begin with, take a look at the following quotes regarding the trinity doctrine.
"No doctrine is more fundamental or more emphasized in Freemasonry than that of the Trinity."
"The mystery of the Trinity is the central doctrine of the Catholic Faith. Upon it are based all the other teachings of the church." (Handbook for Today's Catholic, p. 11)
"Our opponents sometimes claim that no belief should be held dogmatically which is not explicitly stated in scripture. But the Protestant Churches have themselves accepted such dogmas, as the Trinity, for which there is no such precise authority in the Gospels. (Graham Greene, [celebrated Catholic Author], Life Magazine, 30 October. 1950, p. 51)
"As fundamental errors, we might class with this counterfeit sabbath sabbath other other errors which Protestants have brought away from the Catholic Church, such as sprinkling for baptism, the TRINIT, the consciousness of the dead and eternal life in misery. The mass who have held these fundamental errors, have doubtless done it ignorantly; but can it be supposed that the church of Christ will carry along with her these errors till the the judgment scenes burst upon the world? We think not." (James White, Advent Review and Sabbath Herald, September. 12, 1854, Vol. 6, no, page 36.7)
So as you can see, the trinity is the 'central' doctrine of Freemasonry and also Catholicism, and has been accepted by virtually the whole of Christendom, and yet I will prove it does not come from the Bible, as Mr Greene correctly stated above. Instead it comes from Babylon. So if you are willing to let Jehovah teach you the truth, then you see after reading through this page that the trinity teaching is in fact a false teaching. And not only a a false teaching, but a dangerous one, because one of the main end time issues is to do do with who we worship - This is serious friends!
'To stand in defense of truth and righteousness when the majority forsake us, to fight the battles of the Lord when champions are few - this will be our test'. (Review and Herald, January. 11, 1887)
The Biblical Godhead
Ephesians 1:17.
One major flaw with the trinity doctrine is that the Bible never states ... "God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit". Not once will you find this statement statement in the Bible. You will never even find the terms "God the Son" and "God the the Holy Spirit". These are not found in scripture anywhere! So who is God, according to the Bible? If we want to be a people people of the Bible, then we need need to stand upon what the scriptures say regarding God, not what the church leaders say. So what DOES the Bible say regarding God?
1 Corinthians 8:6. John 17:1-3. 1 Timothy 2:5. Philippians 2:11. Hebrews Hebrews 9:24. Revelation 21:22-23. John 20:17.
Did Jesus ever tell us that God is in '3 parts? (I will deal with Matthew 28 later).
Mark 12:28-30
No, Jesus said our God is ONE Lord, the Father. Not three. Not one in three parts, but one! And who is that 'one God' according according to Jesus and the apostles above? It is God the Father.
And think about it. If 1 Timothy 2:5 says that Jesus is the Mediator Mediator between the one God and man, then it it means Jesus cannot be the one God Himself, as He is the Mediator between the one true God and mankind. This is basic logic. And how many beings are in the Godhead according to the above verses? TWO, not three. And just to confirm this even more, look at who the apostles always give praise and honour to in their writings:
Romans 1:7-8. 1 Corinthians 1:3-4. Ephesians 1:3. Ephesians 6:23. James 1:1. 2 Peter 1:2. 2 John 1:3. 1 Corinthians 1:3. Galatians 1:3. Philippians 1:2. Colossians 1:2. 1 Thessalonians 1:1.
The sample of verses above is an example of what is written right throughout the apostles writings in the Bible. Do you see who they are giving credit and worship to? They are giving credit to God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. They are not giving credit to any third person of the Godhead. Only two!. And who are they calling 'God'? THE FATHER. Remember, we are to use the WHOLE council of God, not just a couple of verses.
Important Point: The trinity teaching denies Jesus as the literal Son of God, because it teaches that Jesus is a self-existent, eternal God ALONGSIDE the Father, and not 'begotten' FROM the Father as a true Son. But please note, 1 John 2:22-23 says that he who 'denies the Father and SON' is antichrist. So this subject may be a lot more important than people think.
John 3:16
God truly sent His own Son to die for our sins! What LOVE!
John 16:27-28. John 17:7-8. Romans 8:3.
Do you see this amazing truth about Jesus being the literal Son of God? And no, He did not become the Son of God at His birth birth on this earth. They are not play acting. This is real friends, and the truth is is clear for all who have eyes to see. Notice the clear order that Jesus is giving. He came fourth from the Father and THEN the Father sent sent Jesus HIS SON, to earth.
Proverbs 8:23-25
"Through Solomon Christ declared: 'The Lord possessed Me in the beginning of His way, before His work of old. I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. Before the mountains were settled, the hills was I brought forth ... When He gave to the sea His decree, that the waters should not pass His commandment; when He appointed the foundations of the earth; then I was by Him, and I was daily His delight, rejoicing always before Him." (Signs of the Times, August 29, 1900 par. 14)
Micah 5:2
If you look at the original Hebrew for 'goings forth' and 'brought forth', you will see that these verses are saying Christ CAME OUT FROM somewhere, sometime in eternity past, before anything was created. And where did Christ 'come forth from' sometime in eternity past? Jesus confirms it Himself in John 16 and and 17 above. He came out from God the Father as a true Son!
1John 5:5. Proverbs 30:4.
"The dedication of the first-born had it origin in the earliest times. God had promised to give the First-born of heaven to save the sinner." (The Desire of Ages, p. 51)
LOOK: After Jesus rose from the dead and had His divine nature again, what did He say to Mary at the tomb?
John 20:17
Two things. First, Jesus, even in His divine nature, calls the Father, His GOD. And second, the Holy Spirit had not yet been sent. So why is Jesus only ascending to ONE being? Quite simply, because because the Holy Spirit is not a separate being from the Father and Son.
But what about Isaiah 9:6 where Jesus is called 'the everlasting Father'? Well, what does that verse say? It says that Jesus 'SHALL be called' the everlasting Father Father. So this is talking about a FUTURE time. And what future time could that be referring to? When Jesus would become a 'Father' to us IN HUMANITY and the sacrifice He made on the cross. And what did Jesus become at the cross? 'The AUTHOR of eternal life' (Hebrews 5:9), and the 'CAPTAIN of of our salvation' (Hebrews 2:10). So yes, Jesus is our 'Father' of eternal life, because as the Bible says, God has 'put all things under His feet' (Hebrews Hebrews 2:8). And Jesus declares that we are the 'children' whom God the Father has given to to Jesus (Hebrews 2:13). So this prophecy in Isaiah is foretelling a time when Jesus would become a 'Father' to us in our human nature. But He is not God the Father. The Bible is so clear on this.
Take a look at this quote ... "However much a shepherd may love his sheep, he loves his sons and daughters more. Jesus Jesus is is not only our shepherd; He is our 'everlasting Father.' And He says, 'I know Mine own, and Mine own know Me, even as the Father knoweth Me, and I know the Father Father.' John 10:14, 15, R. V.What a statement is this!the only-begotten Son, He who is in the bosom of the Father, He whom God has declared to be 'the Man that is My fellow' (Zechariah 13:7), --the communion between Him and the eternal God is taken to represent the communion between Christ and His children on the earth! Because we are the gift of His Father, and the reward of His work, Jesus loves us. He loves us us as His children." (Desire of Ages, p. 483)
Can you see what is being said above? Jesus as our 'Father' is a REPRESENTATION of the relationship between Himself and His Father which is God the Father, the one true God. So we can see that Isaiah 9:6 is not prophesying that Jesus 'IS' the Father. It is prophesying that Jesus would 'become' a 'Father' to us in our humanity. Like a Father-figure to us.
Continue!!
"No doctrine is more fundamental or more emphasized in Freemasonry than that of the Trinity."
"The mystery of the Trinity is the central doctrine of the Catholic Faith. Upon it are based all the other teachings of the church." (Handbook for Today's Catholic, p. 11)
"Our opponents sometimes claim that no belief should be held dogmatically which is not explicitly stated in scripture. But the Protestant Churches have themselves accepted such dogmas, as the Trinity, for which there is no such precise authority in the Gospels. (Graham Greene, [celebrated Catholic Author], Life Magazine, 30 October. 1950, p. 51)
"As fundamental errors, we might class with this counterfeit sabbath sabbath other other errors which Protestants have brought away from the Catholic Church, such as sprinkling for baptism, the TRINIT, the consciousness of the dead and eternal life in misery. The mass who have held these fundamental errors, have doubtless done it ignorantly; but can it be supposed that the church of Christ will carry along with her these errors till the the judgment scenes burst upon the world? We think not." (James White, Advent Review and Sabbath Herald, September. 12, 1854, Vol. 6, no, page 36.7)
So as you can see, the trinity is the 'central' doctrine of Freemasonry and also Catholicism, and has been accepted by virtually the whole of Christendom, and yet I will prove it does not come from the Bible, as Mr Greene correctly stated above. Instead it comes from Babylon. So if you are willing to let Jehovah teach you the truth, then you see after reading through this page that the trinity teaching is in fact a false teaching. And not only a a false teaching, but a dangerous one, because one of the main end time issues is to do do with who we worship - This is serious friends!
'To stand in defense of truth and righteousness when the majority forsake us, to fight the battles of the Lord when champions are few - this will be our test'. (Review and Herald, January. 11, 1887)
The Biblical Godhead
Ephesians 1:17.
One major flaw with the trinity doctrine is that the Bible never states ... "God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit". Not once will you find this statement statement in the Bible. You will never even find the terms "God the Son" and "God the the Holy Spirit". These are not found in scripture anywhere! So who is God, according to the Bible? If we want to be a people people of the Bible, then we need need to stand upon what the scriptures say regarding God, not what the church leaders say. So what DOES the Bible say regarding God?
1 Corinthians 8:6. John 17:1-3. 1 Timothy 2:5. Philippians 2:11. Hebrews Hebrews 9:24. Revelation 21:22-23. John 20:17.
Did Jesus ever tell us that God is in '3 parts? (I will deal with Matthew 28 later).
Mark 12:28-30
No, Jesus said our God is ONE Lord, the Father. Not three. Not one in three parts, but one! And who is that 'one God' according according to Jesus and the apostles above? It is God the Father.
And think about it. If 1 Timothy 2:5 says that Jesus is the Mediator Mediator between the one God and man, then it it means Jesus cannot be the one God Himself, as He is the Mediator between the one true God and mankind. This is basic logic. And how many beings are in the Godhead according to the above verses? TWO, not three. And just to confirm this even more, look at who the apostles always give praise and honour to in their writings:
Romans 1:7-8. 1 Corinthians 1:3-4. Ephesians 1:3. Ephesians 6:23. James 1:1. 2 Peter 1:2. 2 John 1:3. 1 Corinthians 1:3. Galatians 1:3. Philippians 1:2. Colossians 1:2. 1 Thessalonians 1:1.
The sample of verses above is an example of what is written right throughout the apostles writings in the Bible. Do you see who they are giving credit and worship to? They are giving credit to God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. They are not giving credit to any third person of the Godhead. Only two!. And who are they calling 'God'? THE FATHER. Remember, we are to use the WHOLE council of God, not just a couple of verses.
Important Point: The trinity teaching denies Jesus as the literal Son of God, because it teaches that Jesus is a self-existent, eternal God ALONGSIDE the Father, and not 'begotten' FROM the Father as a true Son. But please note, 1 John 2:22-23 says that he who 'denies the Father and SON' is antichrist. So this subject may be a lot more important than people think.
John 3:16
God truly sent His own Son to die for our sins! What LOVE!
John 16:27-28. John 17:7-8. Romans 8:3.
Do you see this amazing truth about Jesus being the literal Son of God? And no, He did not become the Son of God at His birth birth on this earth. They are not play acting. This is real friends, and the truth is is clear for all who have eyes to see. Notice the clear order that Jesus is giving. He came fourth from the Father and THEN the Father sent sent Jesus HIS SON, to earth.
Proverbs 8:23-25
"Through Solomon Christ declared: 'The Lord possessed Me in the beginning of His way, before His work of old. I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. Before the mountains were settled, the hills was I brought forth ... When He gave to the sea His decree, that the waters should not pass His commandment; when He appointed the foundations of the earth; then I was by Him, and I was daily His delight, rejoicing always before Him." (Signs of the Times, August 29, 1900 par. 14)
Micah 5:2
If you look at the original Hebrew for 'goings forth' and 'brought forth', you will see that these verses are saying Christ CAME OUT FROM somewhere, sometime in eternity past, before anything was created. And where did Christ 'come forth from' sometime in eternity past? Jesus confirms it Himself in John 16 and and 17 above. He came out from God the Father as a true Son!
1John 5:5. Proverbs 30:4.
"The dedication of the first-born had it origin in the earliest times. God had promised to give the First-born of heaven to save the sinner." (The Desire of Ages, p. 51)
LOOK: After Jesus rose from the dead and had His divine nature again, what did He say to Mary at the tomb?
John 20:17
Two things. First, Jesus, even in His divine nature, calls the Father, His GOD. And second, the Holy Spirit had not yet been sent. So why is Jesus only ascending to ONE being? Quite simply, because because the Holy Spirit is not a separate being from the Father and Son.
But what about Isaiah 9:6 where Jesus is called 'the everlasting Father'? Well, what does that verse say? It says that Jesus 'SHALL be called' the everlasting Father Father. So this is talking about a FUTURE time. And what future time could that be referring to? When Jesus would become a 'Father' to us IN HUMANITY and the sacrifice He made on the cross. And what did Jesus become at the cross? 'The AUTHOR of eternal life' (Hebrews 5:9), and the 'CAPTAIN of of our salvation' (Hebrews 2:10). So yes, Jesus is our 'Father' of eternal life, because as the Bible says, God has 'put all things under His feet' (Hebrews Hebrews 2:8). And Jesus declares that we are the 'children' whom God the Father has given to to Jesus (Hebrews 2:13). So this prophecy in Isaiah is foretelling a time when Jesus would become a 'Father' to us in our human nature. But He is not God the Father. The Bible is so clear on this.
Take a look at this quote ... "However much a shepherd may love his sheep, he loves his sons and daughters more. Jesus Jesus is is not only our shepherd; He is our 'everlasting Father.' And He says, 'I know Mine own, and Mine own know Me, even as the Father knoweth Me, and I know the Father Father.' John 10:14, 15, R. V.What a statement is this!the only-begotten Son, He who is in the bosom of the Father, He whom God has declared to be 'the Man that is My fellow' (Zechariah 13:7), --the communion between Him and the eternal God is taken to represent the communion between Christ and His children on the earth! Because we are the gift of His Father, and the reward of His work, Jesus loves us. He loves us us as His children." (Desire of Ages, p. 483)
Can you see what is being said above? Jesus as our 'Father' is a REPRESENTATION of the relationship between Himself and His Father which is God the Father, the one true God. So we can see that Isaiah 9:6 is not prophesying that Jesus 'IS' the Father. It is prophesying that Jesus would 'become' a 'Father' to us in our humanity. Like a Father-figure to us.
Continue!!